Food & Genaral Workers Union and Others v Irvin & Johnson Limited (P159/98) [1999] ZALC 33; [1999] 7 BLLR 683 (LC); (1999) 20 ILJ 1547 (LC) (9 March 1999)

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Brief Summary

Labour Law — Consultation — Obligation to consult with trade union — First applicant claiming right to consultation after being de-recognised — Court finding that the respondent was not obliged to consult with the first applicant as consultation was effectively conducted with the majority union, FAWU — Individual applicants represented by FAWU through a shop steward — Application dismissed.

IN THE LABOUR COURT OF SOUTH AFRICA
HELD AT PORT ELIZABETH
         
                                                                                                      CASE NO.  
P159/98
In the matter between
FOOD AND GENERAL WORKERS UNION                               1st Applicant
R NKOSI                                                                                            2nd Applicant
K NOFEMELE                                                                                  3rd Applicant
Y NKOZWANA                                                                                 4th Applicant
E TOTANA                                                                                         5th Applicant
E MTULU                                                                                            6th Applicant
and
IRVIN AND JOHNSON LIMITED                                                   Respondent
JUDGMENT
GON, AJ
1.   This judgment was originally part of a larger matter in which an application  
was to be brought by the Food and Allied Workers’ Union (“FAWU”) and this  
application by the first applicant, both against the respondent.
2.  With the agreement of both unions the respondent was to apply to consolidate  
the two actions.  At the last minute FAWU withdrew its application.  The parties  
to this matter then agreed to a pre­trial conference being held before me in order to  
narrow the issues further as the existing pre­trial minute did not so sufficiently.
3.    It was agreed in the pre­trial conference that the first question in dispute was  
whether :­
                
          (1)   there was an obligation on the respondent to have consulted with the  
first applicant;
          (2)   consultation was done through the second applicant;
          (3)   there was a waiver of a right to consultation by the first applicant.

4.   The parties agreed at the pre­trial conference that if I found in favour of the  
respondent in respect of the obligation to consult with the first applicant then the  
matter would be finally resolved and the issues regarding the retrenchment process  
need not be decided.
5.     I heard evidence and argument on the question raised in paragraph 3 above  
and now give judgment.
6.   The first applicant was the representative trade union at the respondent until  
March 1996 when it was de­recognised in favour of FAWU which was recognised  
in April 1996.  This was common cause.  Likewise, it was common cause that stop  
orders were not paid to the first applicant by the respondent after March 1996.  It  
was   also   common   cause   that   the   respondent   applies   the     principle   of  
majoritarianism,   namely,   that   when   a   union   has   50%   plus   one   membership   it  
represents all employees contained in the bargaining unit.
7.     The respondent denied that it had allowed exceptions to the aforementioned  
majoritarianism principle, in response to the allegation that when FAWU was the  
minority   union   it   was   allowed   to   represent   its   members   in   retrenchment  
discussions.
8.   On 2 March 1998 the respondent advised its employees by letter that due to  
the magnitude of the losses at the Port Elizabeth and George branches and the  
results of  a due diligenc exercise that had been conducted by the respondent, the  
respondent   had   taken   over   Pillsbury   Brand   Africa   (the   individual   applicants’  
previous employer).
9.   The letter went on to state that it would not be able to retain all employees in  
employment after March 1998, pending consultations, which had to be held “as a  
matter   of   urgency   because   it   cannot   sustain   the   present   losses  beyond   1   April  
1998.   We  invite  employees  via  representative  bodies (where they  exist) or in  
groups using elected representatives to take part in this process where details as

groups using elected representatives to take part in this process where details as  
contemplated in the Act, can be addressed and finalised.”  
      In evidence it was revealed that the respondent was losing between R2 and R3  
million per month with the PE and George plants operating.
10.     The   first   applicant   conceded   that   consultation   meetings   were   held   with  
FAWU on 2,4,18, and 20 March 1998.  
11.     On   the   18   March   1998   the     respondent     received   a   letter   from   the   first  
applicant (dated 17 March 1998) wherein it stated that it represented its  members,  
the second to the sixth applicants,  and referred to the letter given to all employees

on   2   March   1998   which   invited   employees   to   take   part   in   the   process   of  
consultations with their representatives or in groups.  The first applicant said that  
it was mandated to represent the individual applicants and asked the respondent to  
let them know “ the date when said consultation will take place”.
12.  On 25 March 1998 the respondent replied to the first applicant’s letter stating  
that:­
                (1)   FAWU is the representative majority union;    
                (2)   the consultations had commenced with FAWU on 2 March 1998  
and that three
                        meetings had followed;
                 (3)  consultations would continue with FAWU and the respondent had  
no record of the applicants’ membership of the first applicant;
                 (4)   at a  meeting on 20 March 1998 Nkosi acknowledged that he was  
satisfied with FAWU representing him; and
                 (5)   that the letter had been received two weeks after the 2 March 1998  
letter had
                         been distributed.   
        The letter from the respondent ends:­
 
 “We trust that this satisfies any concerns you may have regarding the consultation  
process.   The principle of majoritarianism, one­industry one­union, is acceptable  
by COSATU and endorsed by ourselves.”
13.       Mr.   Japhet   Hendricks,   respondent’s   senior   human   resources   officer  
(“Hendricks”),   gave   evidence   to   the   effect   that   he   met   with   the   individual  
applicants after the respondent received the first applicant’s letter of 18 March  
1998 and expressed his surprise that they were still members of the first applicant.  
14.   Hendricks also said that the second applicant was then asked at a meting  
whether he was satisfied that FAWU had represented satisfactorily to which he  
replied in the affirmative.
15.       In  extraordinary   evidence   given   by   the   second  applicant   he  said   that   he

remained  a member  of the first applicant  after it was de­recognised.   He said,  
however,   that he was elected as a shop steward by the FAWU members of his  
department in late 1997 as a representative of   FAWU.   He said, which I find  
extremely hard to believe, that no one questioned his union membership prior to  
being elected.  It is astonishing that FAWU should allow a               member of the  
first   applicant,   who   is   also   not   their   member,   to   represent   FAWU   at   the  
respondent.

16.   In any event, he conceded that he attended the consultations in March with  
FAWU as a FAWU representative.   He further agreed with Hendricks, evidence  
that he had said, after receipt of the first applicant’s letter of 18 March,   that he  
was satisfied with FAWU’s representations in the consultation.
17.   The second applicant consistently denied that he ever became a member of  
FAWU and submitted as evidence that his pay slip showed deductions still being  
made to “F.G.W.Union”.   Hendricks said that it was an administrative error that  
the  pay  slips  still  reflected  the  first  applicant  as  all  deductions   made  were  for  
FAWU and all FAWU’s dues were sent out to FAWU with a list of names and  
clock  card   numbers  of  its  members.    As mentioned     earlier  the   first  applicant  
admitted   in   the   pre­trial   conference   that   it   received   no   stop   orders   from   the  
respondent   after   March   1996.     Hendricks   also   said   that   the   respondent   never  
received a complaint from FAWU that it was not receiving stop orders on behalf  
of   the   second   applicant.     He   also   said   that   the   respondent   only   deducted   stop  
orders   from   signed   FAWU   stop   orders.     I   do   not   find,   therefore,   the   second  
applicants’evidence   credible   in   general,   but   least   of   all,   on   the   issue   of     sole  
membership of the first applicant.  
18.   Hendricks stated  that until the letter of 18 March 1998 he had no knowledge  
that employees still retained membership of the first  applicant.  I have no reason  
to disbelieve him. The issue of membership of the first applicant was first raised  
with   Hendricks   after   the   18   March   1998   letter   and   this   was   conceded   by   the  
second applicant although he initially tried to intimate that it was shortly after 2 or  
3 March 1998.  In evidence he said that he approached Hendricks with the third

3 March 1998.  In evidence he said that he approached Hendricks with the third  
and fifth applicants.  In cross­examination he said that they were with him when  
he telephoned Hendricks.
 
19.    Mr. Loxton argued for the respondent that notwithstanding the requirement  
in   section   189(1)(c)of   the   Labour   Relations   Act,   1995   (“the   Act”),   that   when  
dismissing employees for operational reasons an employer must consult with any  
registered   trade   union   whose   members   are   likely   to   be   affected,   one   of   the  
principle  aims of the Act is to promote collective bargaining and that its thrust is  
majoritarianism.  Consequently it would be unreasonable to expect the respondent  
to embark on separate consultations with  majority and minority unions.
20.   While this threat exists, I agree with Mr. Nduzulwana, for the applicants, that  
section   189(1)(c)   requires   consultation   with   any   registered   trade   union   whose  
members are likely to be affected by retrenchment and the invitation of 2 March  
was   not   exclusive   to   the   majority   union   only.     The   problem   of   separate  
consultations   with  a  majority   union and  minority  union   respectively   could  be  
resolved by requiring the two unions to consult jointly.
21.   However, the above suggestion presupposes that the two unions came to the

table at roughly the same time.   I do not believe that the applicants could have  
expected   the   respondent   to   know   that   they   were   still   members   of   the   first  
applicant.  In the circumstances it could be expected of those employees who felt  
they were not represented by the majority union to alert the respondent to their  
membership of the first applicant as soon as possible.
22.     FAWU was recognised to represent the interests of all the members of the  
bargaining   unit,   which   included   the   individuals   applicants.     More   specifically  
representation  was additionally  found in the form of the second applicant  who  
represented   employees   as   a   FAWU   shop   steward   and   who   expressed   his  
satisfaction at FAWU’s representation.  I do not believe that section 189(1)(c) is  
unwavering and immutable. I agree with Mr. Loxton that in the circumstances of  
urgency communicated in the letter of 2 March 1998, the first applicant was tardy  
in its intervention.
23.     By   the   time   it   made   its   presence   felt,   most   of   the   consultation   had   been  
completed union recognised to represent the interests of all the employees within  
the bargaining unit. At all stages up to the letter of 18 March 1998 the second  
applicant   together   with   other   FAWU   officials ,   had   represented   the   individual  
applicants.
24.   Mr. Loxton raised the point that although the “no difference” principle had  
been rejected, many judgments rejecting it in fact endorsed it.  Most judgments in  
rejecting the “no difference” principle consider scenarios in which no consultation  
took place at all and the employer tried to argue that it would make no difference  
if it had.  In this sense it is correctly rejected.
25.   Mr. Nduzulwana quoted the case of  NUMSA v Atlantis Diesel Engines (Pty)  
Ltd  (1993) 14 ILJ 6412 (LAC) @ 648F­G   to the effect that the need for procedural

Ltd  (1993) 14 ILJ 6412 (LAC) @ 648F­G   to the effect that the need for procedural  
fairness was all the more accurate in the case of retrenchment.  I agree.  I do not  
believe, however, that it has to be absolutely formalistic if met in substance.
26.       Mr.   Loxton   argued   that   the   first   applicant   was   the   author   of   its   own  
misfortunes   due   to   its   tardiness.     He   quoted   Johnson   and   Johnson   v   CWIU  
(Pty)Ltd [1998 ] 12 BLLR 1209 [LAC] @ 1216E­H28  to the effect that the joint  
consensus seeking process may be foiled by either one of the consulting parties,  
including, the deliberate delaying of the process.  I do not believe the delay was  
intentional but rather negligent for which I do not believe the respondent ought to  
bear the responsibility.
27.   Mr. Loxton also referred to  NEHAWU v University of Fort Hare  (1998) 19  
ILJ 122 [LC], in which Zondo AJ (as he then was) found the union applicant was  
to blame for the fact that its members had been retrenched without any meaningful  
input by it into the consultation process which the respondent had warned it about.

The circumstances of that retrenchment were different but to the extent that the  
respondent issued a warning in this case it was contained in the letter of 2 March  
1998 and was responded to tardily.
28.    I agree that in the circumstances it was unreasonable to consult so late in the  
process   for   four   employees,   who   had   otherwise   been   represented   by   FAWU,  
where losses of R2 ­R3 million were being made a month.
29.      Mr  Loxton  reluctantly   argued  that  the  individual  applicants  waived  their  
rights to the first applicant’s  representation.  I am equally reluctant to accept this  
argument.   The applicants had knowledge of their rights but one cannot accept  
with certainty that it was full knowledge at all relevant times.  The respondent did  
not prove that the individual applicants with full knowledge of their rights decided  
to   abandon   those   rights.     They   clearly   did   not.     They   acted   on   their   rights  
belatedly.
30.  In light of the above, my decision is  that the respondent was not obliged to  
consult   with   the   first   applicant   in   the   circumstances   and   that   consultation   was  
effected by FAWU,    inter alia,  through the second applicant in  his capacity as a  
FAWU shop steward.
31.  The application is dismissed and the costs are to follow the result.
.....................................
GON, AJ
ACTING JUDGE OF THE LABOUR COURT
Date of hearing:              8 March 1999
Date of judgment:           9 March 1999
For the applicant:            Mr. Loxton of Findlay and Tait Inc.
For the respondent:         Mr. Nduzulwana of the First Applicant